Not sure what counts as crossing? Want to support our picket line?

Hey faculty,

if you want more information on what counts as crossing a picket line and how to support our picket line, we have a flyer for you!

22 thoughts on “Not sure what counts as crossing? Want to support our picket line?

  1. It’s cute how you guys make it seem like respecting the picket line is voluntary.

    How nice that you get to compel employees into joining your cartel, and then get to fine those employees 100% of their wages plus another $500 [1] if they decide to do their jobs.

    Given the level of gross coercion you guys use, that you can consider holding classes as “pressuring students” demonstrates a stunning lack of self-awareness.


    • We never said respecting the picket line was voluntary for our members in their work duty.

      • And is being member voluntary for TAs, Sessionals, etc.? The more I learn about you guys, the more thuggish you seem.

        • It is completely voluntary for a person to join the bargaining unit. They simply don’t have to sign a contract and not take the job. Being a bargaining unit member is both of requirement of SFU as the employer, and TSSU. You can choose to withdraw from being a TSSU member, you can contact to find out information about the consequences of doing so.

          • “They simply don’t have to sign a contract and not take the job.”

            Wow, are you really making the “then just don’t take the job” argument? Does that work both ways, e.g., if the pay, benefits, conditions, etc. aren’t to your liking, then don’t take the job in the first place?

      • Also, you make it sound voluntary when you put “Want to support our picket line?” in the headline. Seems like “Want us to not extort hundreds of dollars from you?” would be a better fit.

  2. You might as well outright state that participating in a picket line is voluntary. Which TSSU member in their right mind would cross a picket line with those ridiculous penalties.

  3. Yes, I’m sure context helps for those TAs that actually value the education of their students choose not to cross a picket line under duress because of the fear of being the victim of public shaming, monstrous fines and possible legal action, as per your strike policy.

      • Hi Joey and Alex,

        All members in the “inner party” are volunteers who are deeply concerned about both their students and your working conditions. We voted for the executive members, the strike mandate, the authorization of picket lines, and will vote for the ratification of a contract. Democracy requires direct action, not a message board post.

        TSSU contract committee

        • Yes, your deep concern was quite visible on Wednesday when you and your goons threatened to fine kids hundreds of dollars for having the temerity to do their jobs.

          That you are a volunteer is irrelevant. That your thuggery is passed by democratic vote is irrelevant.

          What is relevant is that you and your goons intentionally harm the students in the hope that their anger will be directed towards the only avenue open to them, the administration. How lucky for you that you get to coerce everyone around you, blockading public roads, harass students, interfere with the services for which people have paid, all the while being wholly immune to any consequences of your actions.

          Finally, your fetishization of democracy does you no credit. It’s a band-aid over the wound of a coercive system. I imagine you are not an idiot, and thus know exactly what would happen if people were free to not join your cartel, free to teach, and grade, and do their jobs voluntarily, without your threats of extortion.

          • Without a union, how would you suggest that TAs/TMs/Sessionals fight against harmful/absurd/unfair practices by university administrators? My guess is that you would argue that individuals could choose to not come here, and that would gradually convince the admin to change their ways. Or perhaps they could work to speak with the decision makers and get them to change their ways without resorting to exercising collective power?

            Well these are exactly the two options available here for yourself. When you started to work as a TA, you signed up to join the union. If you don’t like it, you have the option of going elsewhere. Alberta for instance is free from the plague of organized TAs. Or, you could work to change the way decisions are made in the organization – which I assure you is easier to do with us than with the professionally-obtuse SFU administrators.

            But instead, you come here, spout hyperbole, and generally throw a tantrum that you don’t like the 30 year plus organization that’s part of SFU’s fabric. If this union/school/province/country is not to your liking, I suggest you vote with your feet and move on or work to make them better.

          • Alex,

            It looks like union membership is optional, and not a condition of employment. You are assumed to be a TSSU member unless you opt out. See article IV of the current TSSU collective agreement.

          • JJ,

            “Union membership” is optional but being a member of the bargaining unit is not. Opting out of union membership means that you give up your ability to vote and give similar input. You are still required to pay dues and are still bound by union strike rules. There is literally no point in opting out of union membership.

  4. @Kyle on November 10, 2012 at 4:12 pm said:” If this union/school/province/country is not to your liking, I suggest you vote with your feet and move on or work to make them better.”
    I find the argument “if you don’t like it go elsewhere” one of the most offensive arguments possible.”hey dirty foreigner/non-conformist/communist/anti-unionist, how about you go home/Alberta/Russia if it doesn’t suit you”. Part of democracy is that people will disagree. It’s their right. No need to tell them to move away.
    PS: I disagree with Alex quite strongly, yet would defend his right of speech. (no matter his lack of facts)

    • Nope. Even if you opt-out of the Union (and the time period for that has elapsed), you are still subject to the Strike Policy including its penalty provisions, just as you would continue to benefit from your TSSU-negotiated contract and your right to representation in the event of a grievance.

      • Do you know if dues are still extracted from non-members? The Collective Agreement doesn’t make this clear.

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